Well for starters our twosome had a tee time at 1 and come to find out so did 4 others schmucks. Fortunately they let us play ahead then we get to the first green and sure enough there are 2 other people just getting to their balls. The fairway cut was approximately the same length as the rough so no help there. Will say there are some nice lookouts over the valley but whoever manages tee times here needs to be lashed.