While this is a great city course, there should be some cost consideration for late fall play. There are no water tubs at the tee, no ball cleaning systems, yet the price to play is not far from the summer prices. There are also leaves everywhere, so you end up losing balls in the fairway. This course is enjoyable, however I was asked to rate this on my latest game which was last weekend. Plus the riders were forced off their carts on 18 because they close at 5pm, although we had 100 yards left.