Cool course, there are just so many blind shots for a group that has never played the course. Took 4 hours but I could see it being a slow playing course if it was busy because of all the blind shots, OB and leaves. Greens are very fast but rolled nice. Greens crew was doing a good job clearing the course with the leaves falling. Cool course but don't think it's worth the 85$ with cart, and get a cart!!